Athens vs. St. Paul

After watching footage of the riots in Athens, I was left flabbergasted. The riot police walked right past the CNN news crew. They were firing flash bang grenades, spraying mace, and arresting rioters, but they didn’t touch the reporters, or hardly even acknowledge their existence. If this was in St. Paul, those journalists would have been arrested, held in custody for days, and never have their recording equipment released back to them. I suppose the unrest in Greece is nothing compared to our legendary Minnesota Nice.

7 Comments so far

  1. Robert Moffitt (justpbob) on December 9th, 2008 @ 9:53 am

    I tried to understand the reasons behing the Athens riots, but it was all just Greek to me.


  2. Aaron (s4xton) on December 9th, 2008 @ 10:41 am

    Donavon- Huh? Perhaps you forgot about the thousands of media personnel that the riot police didn’t touch. Saying "If this was in St. Paul, those journalists would have been arrested, held in custody for days and never have their recording equipment released back to them" is dishonest at best.

    I won’t disagree that there were some journalists that should not have been arrested nor detained, but to make such a careless statement like that shouldn’t be tolerated around here in my opinion.


  3. Art (artallen) on December 9th, 2008 @ 11:50 am

    Aaron– yave you ever heard of "exaggeration for effect"? Lighten up.
    Donavon makes a good point about how the media was treated in St. Paul versus how the media was treated in Athens. As in, the media was free to do their job in Athens, where in St. Paul–even if only a few were arrested–the message was clearly "MEDIA IS NOT SAFE"


  4. Donavon (brash) on December 9th, 2008 @ 2:25 pm

    Aaron – While it may be apt to accuse you of being the one who is dishonest here, I think it may be more accurate to simply classify you as woefully and proudly ignorant, and leave it at that.

    However, for the sake of others who may desire clarification, allow me to correct your astoundingly misinformed comments. When the riot police decided to use unbridled force against one thousand peaceful protesters, observers, and media at 8:15pm on September 4, there was not a single person who "didn’t get touched" – only those who "got away." Four hundred people got arrested on that one night alone, almost half of those who were present. Myself included.

    The police had blockaded the march, trapping anyone between University Ave and St. Anthony Blvd on Marion St, and arresting anyone they could get their hands on, including media, little old ladies on their way home, legal observers, and medics. After the initial arrests, I watched as police ridiculed the media credentials of one City Pages reporter. I watched as police silently watched as a girl had an asthma attack. And I watched as the police maced and dragged off the man who attempted to help that girl find her inhaler.

    The police committed a grave wrong on September 4. Not just against the media, but the people of Minnesota as well. And you call me careless for pointing this out? Absolutely ridiculous.


  5. robosheep on December 9th, 2008 @ 3:45 pm

    Big difference between MN and Greece; these media people in Greece weren’t INSIDE the riot encouraging the rioters.


  6. Donavon (brash) on December 9th, 2008 @ 4:57 pm

    Robosheep – What in the world are you talking about?


  7. Julie (julie) on December 10th, 2008 @ 9:03 am

    People in other countries seem to be way better at protesting and rioting and whatever than Americans are, so maybe the police HAVE to realize how stupid it is to pepper spray some photographer for the AP.



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