Myth-ical.

(Disclaimer: I know someone is going to call me an urban music snob after this post. I don’t care. Bring it.)

Do you know what I don’t understand?
How acts like The Flaming Lips, or Elvis Costello, get booked into Myth Nightclub.

In bloody goddamn Maplewood.

I live in the city for myriad reasons, but one of them is the things I like to do — attend shows, be an active part of our thriving music and arts scene — are all in the city.

I probably won’t go to Myth. Not because I’m an urban elitist (though, maybe I am)… but because it doesn’t seem realistic for me to drive out to Maplewood in rush-hour traffic for a show, to not be able to have a beer with my music because I have to bob and weave home through the clusterfuck that is always road construction at that end of town, as opposed to hopping on my bike (or a bus) and getting myself safely, sanely, back home.

Has anyone been to a show at Myth? Are they any good? Is the venue worthwhile? Their website frightens me. I know I’m not their demographic… so why do they book shows that obviously are my demographic into their venue with increasing regularity?

25 Comments so far

  1. Michelle (unregistered) on July 25th, 2007 @ 1:00 pm

    Sarah, it’s like you’re reading my mind! I feel the same way about the Myth. It just doesn’t seem right. Plus, it is in Maplewood. Ewwww… I guess I could see hairbands playing there, but Flaming Lips and Elvis Costello just doesn’t make sense.


  2. Aliecat (unregistered) on July 25th, 2007 @ 1:21 pm

    I went to see Scissor Sisters there this spring and I can only suggest going there if you have VIP seating, otherwise I don’t really see any reason to trek all the way out there. Plus, their ticket prices seem to always be $5 higher.


  3. jenni (unregistered) on July 25th, 2007 @ 1:37 pm

    i’m always alone in saying this, but i think myth is a fantastic venue, and i wish we had something like that in the city. i live in mpls, i’ve been to several shows there. i’ll pretty much go anywhere to see a band i want to support.

    it’s a great building, with good sound, friendly bouncers and bartenders, and the best part? it’s never that full, because people aren’t willing to drive 20 miles.

    the reason they’re getting those shows is that they’re larger-capacity than most venues in town that would draw that kind of act, but they’ll play along with ticketmaster.


  4. justin (unregistered) on July 25th, 2007 @ 2:19 pm

    You’d have to pay me to attend myth. No way am I going to the burbs to see a show. Plus they play along with ticketmaster, so they can doubly suck it.


  5. Chris (unregistered) on July 25th, 2007 @ 2:52 pm

    I’ve never been, but the flaming lips show is awfully tempting…spectacle alone


  6. tph (unregistered) on July 25th, 2007 @ 6:25 pm

    Justin – you wouldn’t go there even if a band you love is playing? That’s weird.

    And how many venues in the city that can hold more than a couple thousand people _don’t_ play along with TicketBastard?


  7. josh (unregistered) on July 25th, 2007 @ 9:52 pm

    I’ve never been, but this girl I know saw a couple people pass out because they couldn’t afford water. I guess there random pilars on the dance floor people kept getting smashed into. She said it was the most dangerous show she’d ever seen, and it was still just ska music. People don’t break there noses at ska shows.


  8. sarah green (unregistered) on July 26th, 2007 @ 8:28 am

    “People don’t break there noses at ska shows”
    Giggle!

    Don’t even get me started on TicketBastard… I just picked up pre-sale tickets for Arcade Fire and cried all over my keyboard lamenting the extra 13 bucks service fees took out of my checkbook.

    LAME.


  9. Greg (unregistered) on July 26th, 2007 @ 9:16 am

    Myth is an incredible venue with unparalleled sight lines (no pillars at all, actually), bars around every corner and a superb acoustic design. Yes, it’s pretentious with its restroom valets and overly strict photography policies. Yes, you have to drive 40 minutes and then park us Toys R Us when you get there (really!). Yes, it’s terrible the developer didn’t choose to help reinvigorate one of our downtowns with this venue. Yes, the last show I went to there (Cursive, Against Me!, Mastadon) started at 6 p.m. and ended up 10 p.m. so they could have a hoochie rave. However — like that Field of Dreams movie — they built it in Maplewood, and the bands are flocking to Maplewood. It’s totally lame and not rock and roll at all, but the venue is highly recommended and odds are your favorite band will outgrow First Avenue but not quite be ready for Roy Wilkins and will find themselves at the doorsteps of Toys R Us thinking, “Is this heaven?”


  10. dav3 (unregistered) on July 26th, 2007 @ 9:18 am

    us old deadheads would drive anywhere to see our favorite band play. places like detroit or charlotte or california, all of which google maps reminds me are much farther away than maplewood. i would have killed for a show in maplewood. literally. ok, almost literally.

    someone who won’t drive to stupid maplewood to see a band they like isn’t an ‘urban elitist’, they’re just a ‘silly whiner who won’t get to see a band they like’. sorry, the logic escapes me.

    get off my lawn.


  11. justin (unregistered) on July 26th, 2007 @ 9:21 am

    Nope, I wouldn’t go there even if a band I loved was playing, with the exception of They Might be Giants. But TMBG would also play a free show the next day, so I’d hit that one.

    I can get tickets to first avenue shows at many of the local record shops, and not pay TM a cent. I can’t say that for Myth, at least as far as I know. Even if I could get tickets, I’m not going to maplewood to see a show. People have to take a stand against all this suburbia sprawl, and I’ll do what I can.


  12. Huna (unregistered) on July 26th, 2007 @ 9:39 am

    Take a stand against sprawl? You can’t have shows in the suburbs or else it’s BAD SPRAWL? My, how noble of you. I guess only the city proper deserves to have shows. Is that some sort of strange social contract I’ve never heard of? I bet your kind felt the same way when they built the first movie theaters in St. Louis Park. “For shame, sir. I shall not travel out to the Park to see my favorite moving picture star in the cinema. Boo hoo.”


  13. yoshi (unregistered) on July 26th, 2007 @ 9:50 am

    I saw one show there and I won’t go back for two reasons:

    a) One of our party being from out of the country had his passport which they insisted wasn’t a valid id. The so called security went on about how he has been security at the best venues and passports are easy to fake blah blah blah (which just showed his complete lack of understanding of security). Only after basically making a scene did we all get in.

    b) The people. All suburban snobs. I should know since I grew up in Woodbury. But if I am going to see a blues show I don’t expect the j-crew white boy next to me to bitch that the show wasn’t hiphop. Who the hell did they think they were seeing?

    c) Ok I am going to do a third. What has happened to Maplewood? At one time this was an up and coming suburb (ok two decades ago). Maplewood Mall looks like a North Minneapolis these days…


  14. sarah green (unregistered) on July 26th, 2007 @ 10:08 am

    I think my concern here is more: I assume the bands I want to and do support are the bands that also participate in the urban lifestyle and really *want* to play at First Ave., Varsity, even the 400 or Fine Line… or God Forbid, I will (and have) driven to the Roy Wilkins.

    And I sorta scratch my head and wonder who the bands are employing that are booking them into venues that kick them out at 10 for hoochie raves. If I were a band, I’d be kind of pissed about that.

    Unless you are simply playing music to make money. And then, frankly, I lose a little respect for you. I do what I love because I love it. Not because it’s extra-super lucrative.

    I dunno — I mean, I’ve seen both Cursive and Mastadon other places (First Ave and Pitchfork in Chicago), so I know they *do* play venues I go to.

    (by the way, I don’t generally go to arena shows — even if it’s a band I adore — because while I love the music, the atmosphere of an arena show ruins it for me. Just my personal bias.)

    And, the suburban sprawl is a part of it for me. I’m not a suburban girl – I know some people like the suburbs, and that’s awesome for them; It’s just not awesome for me. Though, is it wrong for me to try and be responsible enough to know to bike or bus home if I know I’m going to have a few beers and not want to drive home risking my safety and others on the roads?

    I guess, perhaps there are just two circles of logic.


  15. Huna (unregistered) on July 26th, 2007 @ 11:09 am

    I appreciate all your comments, even the ones I don’t agree with. You are speaking honestly, I’ll give you that! As far as bands that “participate in the urban lifestyle,” though – I know tons of musicians. I own a music store, even. Their lifestyle is all over the map. Mostly it’s “ride a bus around the U.S. Interstate system.” (ha ha)

    It’s mostly “urban” when they’re 21 and want to live with their buddies and be cool and be near the most bars. So they live and play in the city. Once they grow up, even the rabid ones realize like the rest of us that the suburbs aren’t evil.

    And as touring musicians, even national acts, they DO do it for the money. Bands will play wherever it takes, whenever it takes, to get as “big” as they possibly can be, especially when they’re starting out. The “urban” vs. “suburban” thing is not on their radar AT ALL.


  16. Jerud (unregistered) on July 26th, 2007 @ 11:52 am

    I saw Paul Van Dyk at Myth this spring. We rented a bus to drive us to and from uptown.

    No way I’d drive out there for a show.

    It’s a decent venue, and I’d recomend it over target center or xcel.


  17. Jess (unregistered) on July 26th, 2007 @ 1:18 pm

    I kind of wanted to see see Queens of the Stone Age and The Flaming Lips. But I didn’t want to see either badly enough to head out to the Myth. No one I’ve talked to who has been to shows out there has had good things to say about it.

    Call me an urban elitist or whatever, but it’s too damn far away. I might as well go to Milwaukee or Chicago and make a weekend of it (okay, maybe I’m exaggerating a bit).

    Anyway, I can’t imagine seeing The Lips really anywhere now, after seeing them at the State Fair last year. They’ve been ruined for me!


  18. Amber (unregistered) on July 26th, 2007 @ 1:32 pm

    Being that I live in the city but work in the area, I had no problem driving out to Maplewood for a show at Myth. I was skeptical of it at first as well, but warmed up to it after I realized that – wonders of wonders – there was plentiful free parking, the venue wasn’t packed shoulder-to-shoulder, and the staff were actually nice to me when I needed to ask a question. Plus the place is nice-looking, drinks are fairly reasonable (what were people doing at a concert if they couldn’t even afford WATER?! DUR.), etc etc.

    Myth is a great venue for certain bands because it gives a great cross-section between an intimate setting and arena play. Big enough to put on a great show, but small enough that your fans get to actually see YOU and not have to just watch you on a big screen. That is why it attracts a lot of bands, whether it’s money-wise or trying to give their fans something worth going to.

    Plus, I hate people who whine about suburbia. Yes, yes, the city is full of culture, I love it too, etc. Apparently it is also full of small minds who cannot fathom that culture could possibly live anywhere else. And despite what some think, there are actually buses and taxis that run out to Maplewood. And – oh my god! – they go from there to uptown and downtown, too! Plus, you’ve got to freaking kidding me – Maplewood is like, maybe twenty minutes TOPS from Minneapolis (rush hour is longer, true. Tough break). I know…I know it’s scary to have to sit in a car for twenty minutes. But I think that if you maybe bring some CD’s, maybe a friend to talk to, a pacifier if you really need it, I think you’ll be okay.

    HUNA and DAV3 get my votes for favorites comments, BTW. Esp. Huna…the cinema comment made me spit out my Diet Coke all over my laptop.


  19. jana (unregistered) on July 26th, 2007 @ 2:07 pm

    go right ahead and hate the people who whine about suburbia, and we’ll just keep on hating the suburbs. look at us, having different preferences! myth is obviously not far from downtown, but i assume like sarah, i’ll never head there. i like my live music to match my lifestyle: complemented by my city-dwelling friends, my bicycle, and too much beer.


  20. Hannah V. (unregistered) on July 26th, 2007 @ 2:19 pm

    Not having a car kinda prohibits any reasonable trip to Maplewood for me, so it’s incredibly unlikely that I’ll ever go to Myth (as tempting as the Lips are).

    Living in the city without personal motorized transportation at my disposal has made me a convenience brat; if it’s not easily accessible via bike/feet/bus, chances are pretty good that I won’t be going.

    On another hand, I’ve heard very little on the merits of Myth until reading a few of them here. Most people seem to complain about the lack of seating (which doesn’t seem to be any different from a number of venues in Minneapolis). I’ve heard a couple mentions of pricey drinks, although I’m just passing on what I’ve heard without price examples.


  21. honey bunny (unregistered) on July 26th, 2007 @ 7:47 pm

    i’ve never been there and i’ll probably never go as it’s not (reasonably) accessible by public transit. and this bums me out bad, since queens of the stone age are playing there on 8/25 and i would have really loved to see them :( why can’t they play first ave? first ave seems like a more appropriate venue than this myth place. i’m really bummed out about it.


  22. Tim (unregistered) on July 30th, 2007 @ 2:20 am

    Considering I’ll make same day trips to-and-from Chicago and Milwaukee for bands I like, the Myth certainly doesn’t seem that far. No, I dislike because of it’s rave-esque atmosphere, it’s tall and distant stage, and it’s sub-par sound quality. Is that just the plight of mid-sized venues?


  23. K-Os (unregistered) on July 30th, 2007 @ 3:23 pm

    Please stay downtown! I have attended a number of shows at the Myth and find it to be a great venue – better than 1st Ave, better that the gooey floored Target Center and honestly, better than Xcel. It’s small, the sound is great, and the people are normal. If you staying away is what is making my trips to the Myth more pleasurable, don’t go!! Remember – it’s a long drive, the traffic is horrible, there is a huge line to get out of the free parking lot (that is if you don’t know to park to the back side where you can make an instant escape)plus it’s in the middle of freakin nowhere! I love it. I promise I won’t go downtown!


  24. ryan (unregistered) on July 30th, 2007 @ 7:41 pm

    Isn’t it all really just business. I have always assumed that Myth was the “contractual” home of clear channel or Sony or some other large player in the music industry. ie certain booking agents have relationships with certain tour managers who have certain relationships with artists/music companies.

    Everybody has someones hand in their pocket….even the flaming lips….its show “business”


  25. yuli (unregistered) on August 15th, 2007 @ 4:00 am

    I find it hilarious that people have all these GREAT ideas about why certain shows dont belong at myth…

    “ohhh..all these radio stations have a contract at myth”—-radio stations dont book acts at myth..they host/sponsor them..and usually only after they are booked by either promoters or the acts themselves.

    “these bands dont belong out in the suburbs..they should be playing first ave..or some venue down town”—-these BANDS are usually booking MYTH..because they are selling tickets much bigger than first ave can take on..but havent quite reached the target center capacity…and the BANDS/Promoters are always looking to make MORE MONEY BY SELLING MORE TICKETS…so then they end up at the venue that fits that medium—>MYTH…they are prob HONESTLY NOT thinking that performing in the suburbs is going to kill their “Rock” credibility…theyre thinking CHA-CHING $$$ yes MYTH has booked their own acts there for special occasions..like their anniversaries, charity concerts, and just cause the owner likes a certain performer/band and wants to bring them out to his venue…but 90% of the times you can thank your local promoters & favorite bands for booking MYTH…if you’d rather see them downtown..i would write and complain to them.

    “they shut the band down early to have a hooch-rave”…HAHAHAHA..this one is the BEST..alot of bands are on TOUR and have curfew anyhow to get on the bus and back on the road ASAP..so the “hooch raves” dont kick out the bands they are kicking out themselves…some shows are ALL ages..and by LAW must be shut down by 11-12 o clock hour…MYTH just keeps the doors open to “hooch raves” as you so lovingly put it…because they are a business..and they are going to try to max out as much sales as they can.if they fall on a club night…it is because it is the only night that the preformer/band had time to fit in…almost always shows are weekdays!

    ohhh…AND THERE ARE NO PILLARS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DANCE FLOOR..ACTUALLY THERE ARE NO PILLARS JUST IN THE MIDDLE OF NO WHERE..FOR YOU TO JUST KNOCK YOURSELF UNCONSCIOUS…

    AND WATER IS $2 IF YOU CANT AFFORD THAT THAN YOU OBVIOUSLY SPENT ALL $20 MOM GAVE YOU ON A CONCERT TEE OR YOU ARE BROKE!!If a bartender or staff OBVIOUSLY SEES SOMEONE DEHYDRATED, SWEATING PROFUSELY ON THE BRINK OF PASSING OUT…i HIGHLY doubt anyone would deny you water.same goes for DRUNKS ON THE VERGE OF PUKING!

    All im saying is that i respect and understand that there are some people who dont like the suburb and would prefer their favorite bands closer to them..where they can take cheap rides home..and are in an atmosphere fitting to their lifestyle…but at the same time ITS RIDICULOUS for anyone to KNOCK on a great venue..and MAKE ABSURD ASSUMPTIONS…because of the things you have read in blogs, newspapers, or heard from your friends aunts step brothers dog walkers 3rd cousin.WHEN YOUVE NEVER EVEN BEEN THERE!!!

    All venues will have their pros and cons…some people will go to a show at MYTH and HATE it..and some come and LOVE it and can never imagine ever catching their band at first ave ever again!

    If your not going to Myth solely for the purpose that it is not within your likeable atmosphere..than i totally understand..i would not go somewhere im not comfortable…but Myth is honestly a beautiful venue..it is BIG enough to host a HUGE crowd yet small enough to keep the performance intimate.It almost always has different levels of admission…you can purchase VIP for those people who dont like to be in the crowd..and would like a private table to their own..it is pricey but well worth the money if you like to spend it. There are PLENTY of bars (7 in total) and PLENTY more bathrooms..so that you are not waiting an eternity while losing your spot or missing the show…the drink prices are not any more expensive than down town venues..(beers are $5…wells start at $4.75)if tickets are expensive you can again thank your fave band/local promoters for that…if you dont want to pay the $13 handling fee…pick it up at will call..you get thru the quicker line anyhow… There is PLENTY of free parking and also valet for $10…you would be spending that money down town to park in ramps…and if you plan on drinking..you should either have a sober cab or be taking a cab home at ALL times any way….

    Lastly, it is an incredible place to see a show if your not afraid to step into suburbia to see your favorite band…the views are great at any angle of the club..there are huge projectors and flatscreens everywhere so its almost impossible not to see performances..Myth has top of the line stage, light, and sound equipment…it looks and sounds amazing. Im sorry if youve ever had a bad experience there…and you hate it and never want to come back…but if you havent been there yet…i invite you to try it before your make judgements based on other peoples experiences.

    sorry about the lengthy-ness..haha…just wanted to put in my 2-cents…now im sure plenty of people will still have things to say…or smart replies back…



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