St. Paul Smoking Ban

Goes into effect tomorrow.

Who’s willing to bet we’ll just be repeating all the same stuff we went through when the Minneapolis ban went into effect a year ago?

9 Comments so far

  1. Bob from ALAMN (unregistered) on March 31st, 2006 @ 8:27 am

    Yes, we are already hearing the same old nonsense from the pro-smoke crowd.


  2. Lex (unregistered) on March 31st, 2006 @ 11:40 am

    And, apparently from the other side as well.

    I have no issues with a smoking ban. I just think it should have gone statewide or not at all.

    I’m also uncomfortable with the slippery-slope of government telling private businesses in one city – but not the next – how to run their business.


  3. Thomas (unregistered) on March 31st, 2006 @ 3:17 pm

    “government” did tell anyone, anything. (Isn’t it nice to have a strawman?)

    A particular city’s governing elected officials made a choice for that city. Is that not why we elect officials: to make decisions on our behalf?

    Usually those who grumble about “government” do so against “Big Government” and argue for more local control. Ironic isn’t it?

    Even more ironic, perhaps, is that I actually agree with your conclusion: this policy would be more appropriately implemented on a statewide basis.

    I’m curious: would you also have zoning regulations (which can also be described as “telling businesses in one city – but not the next – how to run their businesses) implemented on a statewide basis?


  4. Foster (unregistered) on March 31st, 2006 @ 3:41 pm

    St. Paul? Is that some kind of suburb? No wonder they’re behind!


  5. Nate (unregistered) on March 31st, 2006 @ 6:06 pm

    I am in complete agreement that it should have gone statewide or not at all.

    Yes, Thomas, it is COMPLETELY ironic that people are now complaining that our locally controlled government is causing such a fuss. I am a smoker that actually encourages the ban. I hope it gets me to quit :)


  6. Bob from ALAMN (unregistered) on April 1st, 2006 @ 4:33 pm

    I hope it helps you quit too, Nate. I’ve been there, and done that. Now I am the spokesperson (and blogger) for the American Lung Association of Minnesota.

    For the record, we have ALWAYS preferred a comprehensive statewide law over the “crazy quilt” of local ordinances in Minnesota today. If you doubt this, just Google our name and you will see for yourself. I was quoted in Friday’s Star Tribune saying just that…

    However, some of our state lawmakers can’t seem to do the right thing (popular, too — poll after poll shows broad support for smoking bans, in both urban and rural areas) and pass the Freedom to Breathe Act. So we are doing what California did 20 years ago — passing so many city and county ordinances that the holdouts in the Capitol finally see the light.

    The “all or nothing” argument only gives you “nothing.” This is killing people, folks. We have waited long enough.


  7. Amanda (unregistered) on April 1st, 2006 @ 9:57 pm

    While I’m also not happy with the way the local laws have gone down, as a former smoker, I really like going out now. I’ve gone out to bars tons more since the ban, and bowling is also a lot more fun without the haze. I feel for the smokers, but, hey, at least the weather’s getting warmer now.


  8. Greg (unregistered) on April 2nd, 2006 @ 2:53 pm

    Even when legislated through elected officials, the smoking ban is still government infringing upon private businesses. If people don’t want to sit in a smoking bar, they don’t HAVE to go there. We’re not talking about a publicly funded library; these are independent businesses and consumers making choices about where to spend their money and time. What’s next? A statewide ban on cell phones in coffee shops because they disturb half the population?


  9. Urgewyrm (unregistered) on April 3rd, 2006 @ 12:27 am

    The concept of a state wide ban on smoking is actually pretty laughable. The amount of money taken in ( especially now with the ridiculous tax hikes per pack ) is enormous and no politician or state government is going to give up a cash cow like that.



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